Wednesday, May 8, 2024

International Head-to-Head –Part 16, Germany v. Scotland (with a video Interview with Mr. David Stuart of https://scotlandepistles.com/)

 


In this Blog Presentation with an interview, 
I look back at the past encounters between Germany and Scotland.

The Interview will be as a video link companion, while the Blog will be a presentation of the events.

 

The Interviewee is:

Mr. David Stuart

 

Mr. Stuart is a former fanzine writer and co-founder of the Scotland Epistles football magazine. Co-author of two books on the Scotland national side along with Robert Marshall.

 

Mr. Stuart has appeared before on the podcast discussing the matches of the Scotland National Team.

 

Mr. Stuart’s contact info:

twitter: @davstu11

https://scotlandepistles.com/

 

Links of books, co-authored with Mr. Robert Marshall:

https://www.amazon.com/Scotland-Country-Collectables-David-Stuart/dp/1785315455

https://www.amazon.com/Scottish-Football-Souvenirs-Golden-Years/dp/1785318640

 

 

My contact information:

on twitter @sp1873 and on facebook under Soccernostalgia.

https://linktr.ee/sp1873


Listen on Spotify / Apple Podcasts:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0R5bURaKdcEAkrI8gYnLwa?si=wqn51YOhRQ6wvcmIv0wFug&nd=1&dlsi=b59e62f1a7a2491b

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/soccernostalgia-talk-podcast/id1601074369?i=1000655000913










1920s

 

The first match between the Nations was a friendly on June 1, 1929, in Berlin, that ended in a (1-1) tie.

It was the first match on German soil and the first tie in the series.


Photo From: Die Geschichte der Fussball Nationalmanschaft, Author: Dietrich Schulze-Marmeling (Hrsg)

(June 1, 1929, Germany 1-Scotland 1)



 

1930s

 

The sides me once in this decade as well in another friendly. On October 14, 1936, at Glasgow, Scotland defeated Germany (2-0).

This was the first match on Scottish soil, and the first win in the series.

It would also be the last match involving a unified Germany until 1992.

 

1950s

 

It would be another two decades before the sides met again. On May 22, 1957, Germany, now as West Germany, hosted Scotland at Stuttgart. Scotland won (3-1) in the first away win in the series.

Two years later, on May 6, 1959, Scotland hosted Germany at Glasgow and won (3-2).

 

1960s

 

The sides met three times in this decade. On May 12, 1964, at Hannover, West Germany hosted Scotland in a (2-2) tie.

In 1969, the sides met twice in the World Cup qualifiers. On April 16, 1969, at Glasgow, the match ended in a (1-1) tie. This was the first time that the Germans had not lost on Scottish soil.

For the return fixture on October 22, 1969, at Hamburg, West Germany won (3-2) and qualified to the 1970 Mexico World Cup ahead of Scotland.

Astonishingly, this was the first ever German win over Scotland after 40 years of encounters.

 

Photo From: World Soccer, April 1968

(May 12, 1964, West Germany 2-Scotland 2)



Photo From: Wizards and Bravehearts, A History of the Scottish National Side, Author David Potter, 2004

(April 16, 1969, World Cup Qualifier, Scotland 1-West Germany 1)



Photo From: Die Geschichte der Fussball Nationalmanschaft, Author Dietrich Schulze-Marmeling (Hrsg)

(October 22, 1969, World Cup Qualifier, West Germany 3-Scotland 2)



Photo From: World Soccer, December 1969

(October 22, 1969, World Cup Qualifier, West Germany 3-Scotland 2)




1970s

 

The sides faced one another in two friendlies ahead of the 1974 World Cup that the West Germans were hosting. On November 14, 1973, at Glasgow, the match ended as a (1-1) tie.

On March 27, 1974, at Frankfurt, West Germany won (2-1).

Scotland also faced East Germany for the first time ever during this decade, in two friendlies.

On October 30, 1974, at Glasgow, Scotland defeated the East Germans (3-0).

On September 7, 1977, at East Berlin, East German won this time (1-0).

 

 

Photo From: Wizards and Bravehearts, A History of the Scottish National Side, Author David Potter, 2004

(Scotland squad, November 14, 1973, Scotland 1-West Germany 1)


Photo From: Official Match Programme, Scotland v Spain, 1974

(October 30, 1974, Scotland 3-East Germany 0)


1980s

 

During this decade Scotland, Scotland mainly faced East Germany. The sides were in a European Championship qualifying group for the 1984 Euros.

On October 13, 1982, at Glasgow, Scotland defeated East Germany (2-0). For the return fixture, on November 16, 1983, at Halle, East Germany defeated Scotland (2-1). In the end, neither qualified from this group.

The sides met one more time in a friendly on October 16, 1985, at Glasgow, that ended scoreless.  This was the only tied match between Scotland and East Germany.

 

The only time, Scotland met West Germany during this decade, was during the 1986 World Cup in Mexico at Querétaro, on June 8, 1986. The West Germans won (2-1) after Strachan had given Scotland the lead.

This would be the last ever match against West Germany before re-unification and the first time the sides had met at a neutral venue.

 

Photo From: Official Match Programme, Scotland v Switzerland, 1983

(October 13, 1982, EC Qualifier, Scotland 2-East Germany 0)



Photo From: Official Match Programme, Scotland v Romania, 1986

(October 16, 1985, Scotland 0-East Germany 0)



Photo From: Onze, Issue 153, September 1988

(Richard Gough, June 8, 1986, World Cup, West Germany 2-Scotland 1)



1990s

 

Scotland faced East Germany for the last ever time, prior to re-unification of Germany, in a friendly at Glasgow on April 25, 1990. East Germany won (1-0) with a penalty kick by Thomas Doll. This was East Germany’s first and only away win over Scotland.

 

Scotland faced Germany (as a unified Nation), for the first time since 1936, during the 1992 UEFA European Championships. On June 15, 1992, at Norrköping in Sweden, Germany won (2-0) in a Group match. This was also the second time the sides had met at a neutral venue.

The following year, on March 24, 1993, Scotland hosted Germany at Glasgow. The Germans won (1-0), this was the first ever away win of the Germans in the series.

The sides met in a friendly at Bremen on April 28, 1999. Scotland won (1-0) with a Don Hutchison strike. This was Scotland’s first win over Germany (West or Unified) since 1959 (and their first away win since 1957). Though it must be said, the Scots had defeated East Germany in the intervening years.

 

Photo From: Official Match Programme, Scotland v Poland, 1990

(Scotland squad, April 25, 1990, Scotland 0-East Germany 1)



Photo From: France Football, Issue 2411, June 24, 1992

(June 15, 1992, UEFA European Championships, Germany 2- Scotland 0)



Photo From: Guerin Sportivo, No 26 (901), June 24-30, 1992

(June 15, 1992, UEFA European Championships, Germany 2- Scotland 0)




2000s

 

The sides met twice in 2003 in the 2004 Euro qualifiers. On June 7, 2003, at Glasgow, the match ended as a (1-1) tie.

On September 10, 2003, at Dortmund, Germany won (2-1) and would qualify from the group for the 2004 Euros in Portugal.

Scotland were managed by former West German defender and later National team Manager Berti Vogts.

Vogts had played against Scotland in the two 1969 matches and in 1973 and 1974. He had also managed Germany against Scotland in 1992 and 1993.

 

Photo From: https://impromptuinc.wordpress.com/2012/06/30/2003-scotland-germany-1-1-0-1/

(June 7, 2003, EC Qualifier, Scotland 1- Germany 1)



Photo From: https://impromptuinc.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/2003-germany-scotland-2-1-1-0/

(September 10, 2003, EC Qualifier, Germany 2- Scotland 1)



2010s

 

The last time the sides met was during the 2016 Euros qualifiers.

On September 7, 2014, at Dortmund, Germany won (2-1) with a double strike from Thomas Müller.

Exactly a year later, on September 7, 2015, at Glasgow, Germany won (3-2) at Glasgow. It was Germany’s second ever away win and the first in an official match.

Scotland were managed by Gordon Strachan, who scored against West Germany in 1986 and played against East Germany in 1982 and 1983.


Photo From: https://impromptuinc.wordpress.com/2014/09/21/2014-germany-scotland-2-1-1-0/

(September 7, 2014, EC Qualifier, Germany 2- Scotland 1)



Photo From: https://impromptuinc.wordpress.com/2015/10/03/2015-scotland-germany-2-3-2-2/

(September 7, 2015, EC Qualifier, Scotland 2- Germany 3)



 

Conclusion

 

On balance, Scotland had the early edge for the first decades into the 1960s.

However, Germany has had the edge certainly since the 1969 World Cup qualifiers, when they won for the first time.

There were more meetings with East Germany in the 80s, but the only time they faced the West was the more important World Cup Finals match in 1986.

In the 1990s, Germany had the edge by winning in the 1992 Euros and a friendly at Glasgow (for the first time ever in 1993).

Scotland did win in a friendly in 1999, but Germany has had the edge in the post-millennium era in two Euros qualifying groups.

The sides are set to meet during the 2024 Euros on June 14, 2024 at Munich.

 

 

 

Note:

1-Please refer to the video link at the top of this blog upload for the interview.


Sunday, May 5, 2024

Soccernostalgia Talk Podcast-Episode 121 (Interview with Scottish Genoa fan living in London, Mr. Simon MacMichael as we discuss his adventures as a Genoa CFC fan in the 1990s.)

This is the 121st episode of my podcast with Mr. Paul Whittle of https://the1888letter.com/, @1888letter.

For this episode, we interview Mr. Simon MacMichael as we discuss his adventures as a Genoa CFC fan in the 1990s.

 

Mr. Simon MacMichael is Scottish Genoa fan living in London.

 

For any questions/comments, you may contact us:

You may also contact me on this blog, on twitter @sp1873 and on facebook under Soccernostalgia.

https://linktr.ee/sp1873

 

Mr. Paul Whittle, @1888letter on twitter and https://the1888letter.com/contact/

https://linktr.ee/BeforeThePremierLeague

Please leave a review, rate and subscribe if you like the podcast.

 

Mr. MacMichael’s contact info:

twitter: @simonmacmichael

 

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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/soccernostalgia-talk-podcast/id1601074369?i=1000654633928

 














Wednesday, May 1, 2024

The Soccernostalgia Interview-Part 88- A video Interview and blog presentation with Mr. Jan Roskott of http://dutchsoccersite.org/ on Johan Cruyff’s Controversial transfer from Ajax to Feyenoord in the summer of 1983.




For this interview, I look back on Johan Cruyff’s Controversial transfer from Ajax to Feyenoord in the summer of 1983.

The Interview will be as a video link companion, while the Blog will be a presentation of the players.

The Interviewee is:

Mr. Jan Roskott of http://dutchsoccersite.org/

 

 

Mr. Roskottt’s contact info:

Email: jroskott@gmail.com

twitter: @DutchSoccerSite

Website:

http://dutchsoccersite.org/

https://www.facebook.com/dutchsoccersite

 

My contact information:

on twitter @sp1873 and on facebook under Soccernostalgia.

https://linktr.ee/sp1873

 

Listen on Spotify / Apple Podcasts:

 https://open.spotify.com/episode/1m8Oqmdq4H6ed0BRGTcEZh?si=9nibAqejR1aCD-8JM71iKQ&nd=1&dlsi=1ad3f9c9eee749aa

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Johan Cruyff joining Feyenoord in the summer of 1983

 

It was a nostalgic move when hen Johan Cruyff rejoined his former club Ajax Amsterdam in the early 1980s.

After conquering Europe with Ajax, he had left the Amsterdam side, traveling the world to Spain with Barcelona, to the United States and back to the old continent and Spain with Levante.

Since then, Ajax were no longer the force they were despite winning a handful of League titles since. It was not just Cruyff but the majority of the 60s-70s stars had also departed.

During the 1980-81 season, while still a player with Levante, he acted as an advisor for Ajax Manager Leo Beenhakker.

It would be midway through the following season (1981/82), precisely in December 1981, that Cruyff, now in the twilight of his career, rejoined Ajax as a player.

His financial agreement was based on percentage of gate receipts. His arrival doubled the average attendance at Ajax.

He was recruited after Ajax had made a difficult start to the season. However, despite his age, Cruyff was still a galvanizing force.

He was able to guide and lift a relatively young side and win the Dutch League title for the (1981/82) season.


Photo From: France Football, Issue 1927, March 15, 1983 



Photo From: France Football, Issue 1927, March 15, 1983 



This young team consisted of players who would become household names in the near future. As far as the Dutch contingent, there was Frank Rijkaard, Gerald Vanenburg, Wim Kieft and soon to be unleashed a teenage Marco Van Basten.

There was also a group of young Danish players on the verge of making a splash on the continent, such as Soren Lerby, Jesper Olsen and Jan Molby.

In the following season (1982/83), Ajax and Cruyff repeated as Champions. Cruyff was injured early in the season. There was a feeling that upon his return, he was less interested in playing but in organizing and played as sweeper.

He then moved from sweeper to midfield to great effect and Ajax won the domestic League and Cup double at the end of the season.

Cruyff had increased attendances in his two seasons back at Amsterdam. At the end of this season, he requested a future position at the club in the technical domain to help develop the young players.

Despite Cruyff’s good performances even at 36 years of age, the Ajax board had enough of him and were unwilling to give him a new contract and meet his demands.

This would start a chain of events that would lead to the unthinkable with Cruyff joining arch-rivals Feyenoord in the summer of 1983.

He had a number of offers, including from French clubs, Bastia, Toulouse and Swiss side Lucerne with a lucrative Financial Offer.

However, Cruyff maintained that money was not his leitmotiv in his decision, despite the image that he was only interested in money (that by his own admission, he himself had also cultivated).

He added that if it was just about money, he would not have joined Feyenoord.

 

Photo From: World Soccer, February 1991


In this (1982/83) season, Feyenoord had been Ajax’s closest pursuers. The Rotterdam side had been chasing for the League title for nearly a decade (last title in 1974).

The side managed by Hans Kraay were seen a physical team, in contrast to the more technical game preached by Ajax.

It was during this season that it was announced Kraay would be departing. He had heart problems and in fact could not attend matches.

He was to be replaced by Thijs Libregts for the 1983/84 season.

The players and fans were furious of the board’s decision as Kraay was popular.

Libregts was PSV Eindhoven’s manager that season (1982/83) and in fact Michel Valke had joined Feyenoord on loan because he did not get along with him.

Valke would return to PSV at the end of the season.

Feyenoord legend Willem van Hanegem would also retire at the end of that season.

Nevertheless, Feyenoord still had the backbone of a strong team. The squad included Juup Hiele in goal, with Sjaak Troost, the Danish Ivan Nielsen, Ben Wijnestekers, a young Ruud Gullit, Andre Hoekstra, the Bulgarian Andrei Jeliazkov, Pierre Vermeulen and Peter Houtman.


Photo From: Foot Magazine, Issue 30, December 1983

(Ruud Gullit)


Photo From: Panini Holland 8384

(Feyenoord squad 1983/84)



Former defender Michel van de Korput also returned to Feyenoord (from Italian side Torino).

Feyenoord took advantage of Cruyff’s problems with Ajax to attract him to Rotterdam.

He was seen as the missing link for this team to be transformed into Champions.

In this summer of 1983, Feyenoord lured Cruyff by offering him a percentage of match receipts at home matches (if average attendances were more than previous season’s 23,148).

He would be paid match by match, but only if the match attendance in a given home match was more than the average attendance from the previous season.

Cruyff signed a one-year contract with Feyenoord on these terms.

Departing Ajax goalkeeper Piet Schrijvers predicted the outcome of the following season, upon Cruyff joining Feyenoord.

Schrijvers stated, “a player like Cruyff is just what they need in Rotterdam. Fighting spirit has brought them back to the top of Dutch Football. But to be champions you need somebody who can organize: Cruyff is such a player”.

Cruyff and Schrijvers (to PEC Zwolle) were not the only key players to leave Ajax in that offseason. Ajax also had to wave goodbye to Leo van Veen (to Utrecht), Soren Lerby (to Bayern Munich) and Wim Kieft (to Italian side Pisa).

The arrivals at Ajax included goalkeeper Sjaak Storm (back from loan at Excelsior), a young Ronald Koeman from Groningen and the Austrian Felix Gasselich from FK Austria (with the difficult task of replacing Cruyff).

The Cruyff effect was evident at both clubs for different reasons.

In the previous season, in July 1982, Feyenoord had sold 2,500 season tickets, in July 1983, that number had increased to 6,300.

At his former club Ajax, the absence of Cruyff was felt in their pockets as they were dropped from the prestigious pre-season Mundialito of clubs Tournament in Milan.

Ajax sued the organizers for the decision, but the promoters maintained that their agreement was contingent upon the guarantee of Cruyff’s participation.

As the season started, both Ajax and Feyenoord were in good form.

On matchday 7 (September 18, 1983), the sides met in Amsterdam. It was Cruyff’s first time back in Ajax as a Feyenoord player. Ajax won with the unbelievable score of (8-2). At this point, perhaps, some would have questioned Cruyff’s decision to leave Ajax.

Undeterred, Feyenoord continued to win match after match, and it became clear that this loss had been an anomaly.

Photo From: Foot Magazine, Issue 31, January 1984

(Former Ajax teammates, Arie Haan of PSV Eindhoven and Johann Cruyff of Feyenoord, 1983/84)



By the midway point of the season, Feyenoord had won 13 of their 17 matches with three ties.

At this point, Ajax and Feyenoord were neck to neck, just like the previous season.

It would be the return fixture between the two sides on February 26, 1984, at Rotterdam that would be the decider between the sides.

An inspired Feyenoord side won (4-1) with Cruyff scoring the second goal.

This was the turning point of the season and from then on Ajax would lose ground.


Photo From: France Football, Issue 2437, December 22, 1992

(Cruyff and Marco van Basten, February 26, 1984, Feyenoord 4-Ajax 1)



In the meantime, Feyenoord had also eliminated Ajax from the Dutch Cup to underline their domestic supremacy.

Feyenoord would march on winning the title (the first since 1974) on the penultimate match of the season on May 6th, 1984, after defeating Willem II (5-0).

Feyenoord would win the domestic double by winning the Cup title as well defeating Fortuna Sittard (1-0) in the Final on May 2nd, 1984.


Photo From: Kepes Sport 1984



Photo From: World Soccer, November 1983



Photo From: Sport Magazine-Foot magazine, Issue 20, May 12, 2004



Five days after the title win on May 11th, 1984, Cruyff announced his retirement upon the end of the season at the age of 37.

He announced that his decision was irrevocable, as another season as a player would require too much energy and sacrifice. He added that he did not feel to have the strength to continue at that rhythm and since he hated mediocrity….

On May 13th, 1984, in the last match of the season, Feyenoord defeated PEC Zwolle (2-1) with Cruyff scoring the first goal (his last as a professional).

He had honored his contract. Feyenoord were champions and the average attendance of Feyenoord had risen from 21,234 to 25,000 (Cruyff was somewhat disappointed as he was expecting an average attendance of 40,000).

Cruyff, the Footballer, ended as a winner. Soon, we would see Cruyff, the Manager, but that is another story….

 

Photo From: France Football, Issue 1989, May 22, 1984 



Photo From: France Football, Issue 1974, February 7, 1984



 

References:

World Soccer, January 1982

World Soccer, April, June, July, August, September, October 1983

World Soccer, February, March, April, may, August, September 1984

France Football, Issue 1974, February 7, 1984

France Football, Issue 1988, May 15, 1984

France Football, Issue 1989, May 22, 1984